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footer77 55M  
186 posts
7/31/2018 6:46 pm

Guys are thick. Myself included. They are not being rude, it is in the genes. Come-ons sometimes ignored and polite attempts to say "go away" are also ignored.

Keep posting about this, we might listen or we might keep texting and pestering other women that do not want anything to do with us.


rosaenaluin 65F
10841 posts
8/1/2018 12:47 am

Since girls are raised to be "nice" and always obey... older persons/ parents, teacher, pastor, docter... you name it,
always rely on an older person for her guidance, not learning to trust her own first instinct.

it is a sort of second nature for most women to obey, or just are not able to say NO MEANS NO! Or even get angry.

because they have been thought from very early on, to be 'NICE'.... and 'beautiful'.
When a little girl gets angry, she is told she is not nice!
or ugly or what not!
She has to behave according her gender!

While boys are stimulated to be angry and fight and overrule others, But dont show any other emotions, because that is the way of men!

When a little boys is crying because he is hurt he is called a sissy, crybaby, a girl...

So, WE need to change our attitude to the difference in educating girls versus boys.

There is where all this starts!

It does not say, girls have to become more like boys, but we should create a safe surroundings for both genders to be and act like they feel
and not consider their gender the only and one true way.

Violence is gender orientated. untill we change.


camperdude_69 63M
599 posts
8/1/2018 12:51 am

very true. NO means NO must respect others


rosaenaluin 65F
10841 posts
8/1/2018 12:52 am

Footer,

saying it is in your genes, is a lame excuse for not taking any responsibility for your own behaviour.

it is in your upbringing, education.

not in your genes.


MsSwanger 35F
15964 posts
8/1/2018 2:57 am

Basic understanding really.

I enforce No as NO.

Even when chikdish behaviour like NO you don't get to say yes
NO YOU CANT BE AN ASSHOLe.


MsSwanger
Journey into my soul.


aliljaded 53F
8847 posts
8/1/2018 4:16 am

I've always taught my kids that "NO" is a complete sentence. That when you say "NO" to someone that should be it. As well as when someone says "NO: to them, they should take it and be ok with that answer, and not push the issue.

"Men need to hunt. She obviously understands this. She’s offering herself as prey. Not easy prey. But willing.”


brandygirasol 54T
9369 posts
8/1/2018 6:22 am

IF I don't give a guy a definitive NO and I'm considering him as a potential sex partner then PERSISTENCE may get him a date with me because I dig manly aggressive MEN


JohnnyLightning 65M  
9554 posts
8/4/2018 11:11 am

No can be a tough pill to swallow but nonetheless it has to go down. The silent treatment is the real tough one.

Howling at the moon and mal ad osteo.


Doc_Sonar 66M
24589 posts
8/28/2018 9:44 pm

I hear you saying that outside of bdsm, no means no (stoppage, like Red does in bdsm). If do, I agree.
Why, b/c it is my upbringing...which I learned to follow after NOT for a long time.

I also agree that, unless things have changed, there is a dbl-std for raising males and females along these lines that exists, still. Whereas faith and belief come by hearing - the teaching part would help SOME though not solve it, wouldn't it?

FInally, I stressed to my daughters that no meant no at any time that they said, regardless of what was happening. SO far, so good.

BD~
P

I could prolly do updated research.
Interesting post.

I apprecte you.

Doc_Sonar

I advocate Simplicity, Patience & Compassion...to the extent that doing so won't threaten or harm My boundaries or Me. ~ Doc_Sonar


Breathe Deeply~
Peace



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